Is welsh and cob the same thing..?

Question

I'm new to owning a horse, however my grandad has a farm and has owned them his whole life i've just never had much interest until now where i'm in the right financial state to afford one.

My mare is a Welsh sec C crossed with a appaloosa..

I see some people say cob, some people say welsh, on my mare's passport it says 'Welsh pony and cob society' that's who her passport is with, so what's the difference I just don't get it ?

So what's a cob and is it the same as a Welsh?

Answer 1

Sort of. A welsh cob will always fall into the cob category, but a cob horse isn't always a welsh cob.

A cob is a type of horse, a description, not a breed. They're compact, chunky large ponies/smaller horses with plenty of muscle, bone and short backs etc good, well built weight carriers with a leg at each corner.



This is where it gets confusing. A cob in itself is not necessarily a particular breed, they're often crosses of other horses and so long as they fall under the description of a cob they're known as a cob. However a welsh section D (or welsh cob) IS a pure breed that also falls into being a cob.



Welsh horses come in sections from A to D. Welsh ponies from section A to C are just pony breeds, it is

only the welsh section D that falls under a cob breed.



The welsh pony and Cob society covers partbreds aswell as purebreds, hence why they don't just call themselves the welsh pony society.



edit: Dove, in the UK we have passports not papers :).

Answer 2

Your horse has "papers" not a passport. A cob is a horse with a stocky body and rather short legs. Some people describe a cob as having pony legs and a horse body. There are 4 types of Welsh Ponies, yours being Sec C, which is the cob type. Others are more refined. Research them up on the internet. So your horse can be referred to as a cob, Welsh Cob, pony, or horse. If she is registered with the Appaloosa Assoc. she can also be referred to as an Appaloosa or Appy. Hope this helps. Enjoy your mount whatever you want to call her!

Answer 3

In general terms, cobs are larger than ponies, standing 14.2 hands or taller, but are relatively small and compact, usually with somewhat short legs. The breed of horse known today as the Section D Welsh cob exemplifies the classic build of the historic cob. It is said that good show cob should have "the head of a lady and the backside of a cook."



Popular uses of the cob include driving, showing and recreational riding. Cob-type breeds have become increasingly popular for Riding for the Disabled Association (RDA), as well as for riders who seek horses who are responsive but with a calm temperament, shorter stature and steady, comfortable gaits.



The rulebook of the British Show Horse Association (BHSA), states: "The Cob is a type rather than a breed. A short-legged animal exceeding 148cms (58 inches or 14.2 hands) with a maximum height of 155cms (61 inches or 15.1 hands), it has bone and substance with quality and is capable of carrying a substantial weight...Cobs should have sensible heads, (sometimes roman nosed), a full generous eye, shapely neck crested on the top, with a hogged mane and well defined wither...The Cob should also have clean, strong hocks and all the attributes of a good hunter.





All sections of Welsh ponies and Welsh cobs have small heads with large eyes, sloped shoulders, short backs and strong hindquarters. The forelegs are straight and the cannon bone short. The tail is high-set. The breed ranges from 11 hands (44 inches, 112 cm) for the smallest ponies to over 16 hands (64 inches, 163 cm) for the tallest cobs.[7] They may be any solid colour, but not piebald, skewbald, (US: pinto)[8] or leopard-spotted.[2] Black, greys, chestnut and bay are the most common, but there are also duns and palominos.[3] However, it should be noted that British equine colour terminology commonly refers to the buckskin colour, which is caused by the same dilution gene that produces palomino, as "dun", but the true dun gene is extremely rare in the Welsh breed.



Their movement is bold and free and characteristically fast, especially at the trot, with great power coming from the hocks.[3] Their trot has been favorably compared to that of the Standardbred horse.[9] They are reputed to be trustworthy, of a good disposition with even temperaments and friendly characters, but spirited and with great endurance,[3] and are known for their stamina, soundness, and high level of intelligence

Answer 4

From my knowledge, there are several sections to the welsh society.



Welsh mountain pony, section A- not exceeding 12 hands. They are an elegant pony, and make wonderful harness ponies.



Welsh pony, section B- not exceeding 13.2 hands. With all the attributes of the Welsh mountain pony, but with greater emphasis placed on the riding pony qualities.



Welsh pony of cob type, section C- not exceeding 13.2 hands. This pony is not as fine as the welsh B, due to having cob blood. They are natural jumpers, and do well in harness and are very versatile.



Welsh Cob, section D- should be over 13.2 hands with no limit. Solid built pony, known for its courage, tractability and its powers of endurance.



Welsh Gelding, section E- registration for geldings produced by ponies from any of the other four sections. Usually referred to as "gelding of Section _ breeding".



Part Welsh- there is no height limits here, but all ponies and horses registered must have a minimum of 12.5% proven welsh blood in them.

Answer 5

You can have Irish cobs, welsh cobs, Highland cobs - it is just a certain size and build of larger pony or small horse, and the Welsh indicates where it comes from originally!

Answer 6

Cobs are a type. Welsh is a breed. Some types of Welsh ponies are cobs.

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Answer 8

No offense, but if you don't know simply terminology like this you probably aren't informed enough to have a horse of your own, even if you are in 'the right financial state'.