Question:
BITS-looking for a bit for a soft mouth!!?
Iona <3 Alvin
2009-02-09 11:47:28 UTC
my pony is ridden in a sweet iron and copper fused training bit,it's like a dr.bristol/french link but the centre piece is round like a peanut!! she likes the bit but i'm sick of replacing bits....the iron has a life span of about 4/5 months...i previously road in a rubber coated d ring snaffle which she liked also...she came in a loose ring snaffle but is better in the other bits..

does any one know a good bit for a horse with a soft mouth that i won't have to always replace or will last a good while at least???
would really like your opinion......

thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Nine answers:
buffy
2009-02-09 14:16:12 UTC
I have never personally owned a bit that must be replaced every few months - what's the bit made of and what goes wrong that it must be replaced? Is it because the bit gets rusty that you replace it? If so, then you don't understand what "Sweet Iron" is. Sweet iron is a metal that's intended to rust soon after you begin using it. The rusting is thought to promote salivation which creates a sensitive mouth.



Myler bits are made of the highest quality materials in my opinion. I'm sure there are others, but I've never found one yet that I like the quality of workmanship, the technology in the mouthpiece to avoid pain infliction or the process of communicating bit level and education that Myler has.



I ride my two youngsters in a Myler comfort snaffle - it's a d-ring snaffle with a stainless steel mouthpiece that has copper inlays and a copper roller in it. When I switched from a traditional two-piece mouthpiece snaffle, within hours the difference was as night to day. My bits get crappy with slobber, dust and grass goobers - a simply warm water wash with some mild dish soap has them looking like new. I've ridden my 8 year old for about 3-4 years in the same bit - it looks like new.



These bits aren't cheap, but I swear they'll last longer than about any other bit out there. They have interchangeable mouthpieces and cheekpieces - and are available in french link-type mouthpieces with any kind of cheekpiece.



I started my younger horse on a comfort snaffle with a twist made of Sweet Iron. This last summer I noticed that she's really playing with the bit. I switched her to the other stainless/copper smooth bit I use on the other horse and she quieted right down. The sweet iron was promoting her playing or there was something about it she didn't like.



I suggest you visit www.mylerbitsusa.com - visit your local retailer, or get to an expo where the Myler brothers are speaking. there is a book and video you can get for $10-$15 from about any retailer - the video helps you understand bit resistance, how Mylers rating system of bits works and why each bit is a certain type and give you some ideas of how to 'feel' what the horse feels when a certain bit is placed in their mouth and engaged. I feel that if you watch the video and understand how the bits work, you will learn a lot and be able to pick up about any bit and get an idea of how it works and feels to the horse.



After you watch the video, you can assess then whether your horse is a focused on you as it should be or whether it may be un-focused because of the bit type, then start either asking questions or trying bits to figure out what works better. Myler (Toklat is the distributor) has a rental program, but the tack shop has to invest in the bits to actually rent. If you can watch the video, then rent a different bit to try, you can be better assured it will work if you buy it. I suggest taking your current bit to the retailer, telling them what's working, what's not and discussing your use of the bit they should be able to get you into something that will last you years and years with success.



I forgot a couple points about the rubber bits - if you find the exact bit you're using with a rubber coating, you'll be lucky. You must consider the thickness of the mouthpiece if you do, because a thicker mouthpiece may be less comfortable to the horse. I spoke with a gal this weekend who found a horse who chomps at any bit you give him, he likes the rubber ones better, but tends to destroy them. She wraps her bit in some sort of bit wrap I'm unfamiliar with.



Regarding bit resistance - you must determine whether the horse is demonstrating it or not. If the horse carries that bit quietly and comfortably in his mouth and you have his full attention, he's fine with the bit - but if he slobbers, lips, bobs his head, sticks his nose out - anything other than quietly holding it awaiting your cue, he's either uncomfortable with the bit or the way it's being used. Don't give the horse human attributes - just because you think it must be yucky doesn't mean your pony does. Allow him to tell you what he thinks.



As I type this I'm pretty convinced that you're seeing the Sweet Iron rust as it should - which usually takes a month or so of use, then you're thinking it's junk because it's rusting - it's not, that's what sweet iron does.



But do know why the french link is a different bit than a two-piece snaffle before going to look for a different bit. You can totally go backwards in your communication iwth the horse if you change bits without knowing why or how the horse perceives it.



good luck!
evelyne
2016-05-23 15:01:26 UTC
If you have sympathetic contact with the horse with the rein, the horse will definitely soften! My OTTB can sometimes get heavy and hard on the bit. I would suggest using this trick. Hold your outside rein steady, and vibrate or squeeze and release the inside. The horse may or may not go on the bit. Also try some leg yielding with proper bend. All that will help. And you should NEVER use a twisted wire bit on an already hard mouthed horse. Maybe in the western world, but in English, or at least how we do English, it's not correct. Edit: Your horse is hard mouthed because of the harsh bit you are using! Try a lighter one. Gag bits will NOT help the situation.
anonymous
2009-02-09 11:56:37 UTC
A french link snaffle is the way to go. They are great bits and should last a while, epically if you buy from a quality manufacturer.
anonymous
2009-02-09 15:01:17 UTC
I like the Happy Mouth triple-jointed eggbutt snaffles as they do not have the "nutcracker" action like single jointed snaffles do. I also prefer eggbutt snaffles over loose rings as loose rings tend to pinch.



Hope this helps!
Becca
2009-02-09 11:54:55 UTC
I really like my french link snaffle. I've never used another bit since!
Exquisite One
2009-02-09 12:20:53 UTC
A three piece snaffle (Dr. Bristol/French link/or the Mikmar ergom lozenge) IS the mildest bit you can use. If you buy a Mikmar, which costs about $160.00 U.S. - it should last for your lifetime. You should rinse your bit off with fresh water after every use and dry with a clean towel. Clean your bridle after every use in hot weather and every other use in cold weather (if your horse doesn't sweat a lot), and it will last a lifetime, too!.
Greg B
2009-02-09 12:18:19 UTC
I'm not sure if they have a sweet iron bit, but I can tell you that a Korsteel stainless bit will last you a lifetime. I have one that has been in constant service since the mid 80's and it's still great.
*LOLZ* xox
2009-02-09 12:08:36 UTC
Hi! All of my cousins lesson horses and ponies are either ridden in this...

http://www.surreyequestrian.co.uk/westgate-copper-mouth-hollow-eggbutt-snaffle.html

or this...

http://www.colemancroft.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=257



The first bit lasts ages Rollie has had his one for over 3 years now. He chews at his bit alot too and plays with it.

The second bit also lasts along time but it isn't as good as the first one, espeically for Rollie he managed to chew hiis though the middle!
PIRATES#27
2009-02-09 11:59:45 UTC
well when i lived at my old house i got a CARATd you wouwouldn'tave to replace it because it is good for up to 3 years. you might have to go to a Cattle Ranch store wherever you live if you live close enough to one the best one that i have gone to was one in Idaho Falls, Idaho.


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