English / Jumping EQ question?? Confused?

Question

So, First I'll ask about english EQ first. When you ride are you suppost to be a few degrees infront of the vertical, or straight up.???

And for jumping position? When you go into position I was told your chest should be really low and close to the horse. But when I watch people jump their chest isnt very low.
I have seen others with really low chest.

Can you show me some pictures of both english and jumping EQ.

Answer 1

1. At the walk, your hip angle should be closed, and you should arch your back so you sit forward on your seat bones. You should be slightly in front of the vertical in this gait, but otherwise, very close to vertical. At the trot, you should be on your seatbones, but your hip angle should be more closed, and you should be farther forward over you horse at the trot, so noticably in front of the vertical like this http://www.q-horse.com/adphotos/iwiwb.jpg. At the canter, you have two options, you can be in your hunter seat or two point, where your seat is out of the saddle and you are similarly as forward as you were at the trot like thishttp://www.solsticewelshcobs.com/images/p3078209-v3a.jpg. Or, if you are in an equitation seat, you are in the saddle, and closer to vertical, but not as far back as at the walk like this http://www.shadytreehorses.com/images/l_285607172fff4ae3b40926a6429a0cd7%5B1%5D.jpg

2. When jumping, in general, you want your body to be parallel to your horse. When you dive your chest down, you usually stick your butt up really high, which is not correct. The correct position is this http://www.chestnuthillca.com/images/sales/Nadato-5-lg.jpg. I like to think like im sticking my heels at the jump, and trying to keep my butt at close to the saddle as i can without touching, and also, to keep your chest open and shoulders back.



hope i helped!

Answer 2

Here's the scoop. Hunter/jumper (or hunt-seat) is a specific subset of English riding. Within a hunter equitation class you are going to position yourself in front of the vertical. Your angle should not change as you post.



If you are riding within the broader English equitation category, you ride on the vertical (straight in the saddle). The caviet with riding in a shallow Enlgish saddle with a straight position is that people tend to over-post, throwing their hips forward over the pommel of the saddle. Work to keep your posting movement to a minimum.



As for jumping, your position over fences depends upon the height of the jumps. The taller the jump, the more exagerated your position or angle becomes. Your position must relate to the jump height otherwise the horse will be thrown off balance and onto the forehand.



Best of luck!

Answer 3

in EQ you should be straight. your back hip and heels should all make a vertical line perpendicular to the ground.



your chest should not be low to the horse unless you are jumping very large objects. your back should stay straight, at about a 50 degree angle to the horse. your lowed body should be your base of support and all movement is in your hips, knees, and elbow. if you lean into the horse you could throw him off balance or get hit in the face when jumping or landing. also, when you lean onto the horses neck, when you land you will get jarred and throw your horse off balance.



http://www.majodastables.com/Web%20Size%20Horses/Ava%20Pics/HHcanterJP.jpg



this is a very good picture of the 2-point position. notice how her heels are down and her leg is at the girth. this will create a solid base when jumping, which is essential. she is not leaning close to the horse, she will let the horse come to her when jumping.



hope this helps. message if you want any more info

Answer 4

English Equitation is just plain old Eq. You should be sitting up not forward and just looking good on the flat. Like just sit back, eyes up, shoulders back, heels down, smile, etc...



Jumping position AKA two-point, can be different depending on the size of the jump. If you have a big ol' 4 foot jump than your horse is going to have to lift it's legs high so it's neck is going to com closer to your chest. your two-point/chest will be closer to the horse. Now if your jumping a 2 foot jump than your horse doesn't have to jump as high so you don't have to two-point as much.



Here are some videos to demonstrate the above. These are not my videos.



Equitation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w9XWApNcDc (This rider's canter could use a little work. She is pumping her body a bit much.)



Jumping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAZCO6rZJ0 (It also depends on how the horse jumps it. Some people exagerate more than others at the two-pont.)

AS OPPOSED TO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBfhCNHTYno

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbo6noeRXU



Hope I helped...this took me a while to find some good videos.

Answer 5

Okay so when you ride english it just depends on what you are doing. When to EQ you want to be up tall with shoulders hips and heels in a straight line.



When jumping you get in your two point. That is where you move your hands forward on the mane. Look at where your hands are when you are sitting straight. You want to move so that your wrists are now where your knuckles were. (this is called a reach and press) Then you want to lean forward and raise yourself out of the saddle just enough that you could be sitting on an egg. (a little trick i use to help kids learn how far you want to be out of the saddle, You want to imagine that someone put an egg under you, you dont want to squash it but you dont want it to roll of the saddle) YOUR CHEST DOES NOT TOUCH THE HORSE!! Just lean forward a little.

Answer 6

Jumping: You should be leaning forward in direct relation to the size of the jump. For an 8ft jump, you should be hugging your horses neck. For a 6in jump, you should lean forward like 1 degree, and just barely get your butt out of the saddle.



Hunt Seat Eq: You should be sitting straight up, but not leaning back. Your back should be flat, and your shoulders should be back. It should feel like you are "pulling" up, not just sitting up. (and don't follow the saying of sticking your boobs out, it just causes you to arc your back very unattractively.)



I'll go find some pictures of good Hunt Seat Eq. and edit this to include links.



EDIT: I realize that she's posting, but look at that gorgeous flat back! I would kill to sit that good.



http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/orderpage.aspx?pi=0GNE005S4X0077&po=77

Answer 7

If you are riding more dressage style, then straight up, but for things like hunter its usually slightly in front of vertical.



It usually depends how big a jump you are jumping. For small jumps you don't have to keep your chest as low, but if you are doing really big jumps then you keep your chest lower. Just remember to move with the horse

Answer 8

Jumping is a type of english riding. You mean eq on the flat. You should be straight up. When you canter though, riders tend to lean forward just a bit to stay on top of the movement. For eq over fences, you do not have to be excessively close to the horse. You just need to have a straight back, be looking up, heels down, hands on or near the crest, and your legs not too far forward or back.

http://www.ringappaloosas.com/images/Success%20Stories/Miracle_Asset_WNYAA.jpg



http://www.mariannelson.com/images/sales/urbie-sales-lg.jpg

Answer 9

for flat eq, or Hunt Seat Equitation, you want heals down, legs should be still, back straight, shoulders back, head and chin up, looking where you are going. hands should be still.

for jumping, heals still down, back should still be flat, but you should be in "2-point" position, so you should be raised out of the saddle and leaning forward to help your horse over the jump. your hands should be at the base of the neck for small jumps, keeping contact, but for bigger jumps, give your horse rein. head always up looking to next jump.



pics:

http://www.winningedgefarm.com/UserFiles/Resources/Images/Kelsie%20(B).jpg

http://www.grandoaksfarm.org/images/katy1.jpg

http://www.tinalangness.com/LexiWorldphoto.jpg

Answer 10

I know that when I jump and when I see people jump, they move with the horse, like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV0kzogNcr0&feature=related