Question:
cruelty case?
Leslie p
2007-05-10 09:35:39 UTC
Why is it that when a human being can so badly mistreat an animal(horse in this case) that alot of people see nothing wrong with it. i mean it is a caring defensless animal that solely depends on its caretaker for food water shelter and love and some of them think that it has no feelings what so ever. they feel hunger thirst love pain and emotions. well i am getting at a pint. i have a horse a 6 yr old recue TB that is registered. and i have had him now for 2months. he came to be beaten in the face with a two by four, emaciated, worming, needing teeth floated, deficiency in vita. and miner. and everything. and had rain rot ring worm thrush, cuts bruises and everything else yet his previous owner got nothing but a $500 dollar fine. it will take more than that in farrier bills for this horses hooves to be proper again yet he got basically off scotch free. i have named the horse DONATELLO for the artist and for part the TMNT donatello michaelagelo, leonardo and raphael.bc he is a fighter
Eighteen answers:
2007-05-10 09:40:29 UTC
Thank-you for saving Donatello.



Unfortunately the laws on the books are usually totally outdated, circa 19thc. for the most part when horses basically were cars.



With today's economy; it's cheaper just to let them go. A friend told me that the average horse runs $1800-$2400 annually. We just had 69 abandoned horses here in MI. Half of them were in foal. Personally I think hanging would be too good for these people.



Again thank-you for saving him and giving him a chance.
2007-05-10 11:21:11 UTC
My horse is also a rescue, so I know how you're feeling. He was neglected, underweight, somewhat lame, and living without shelter for years. I have owned him for 6 months and he is thriving; he's at a healthy weight and no longer has any lameness issues, and he's my best friend! I love my horse so much, and it's so hard to believe that anyone would ever treat him the way they did. To me, he's perfect, but a lot of people just don't think that animals have feelings and emotions.



All you can do is try to give Donatello a fresh start and a great rest of his life. I know it's hard to accept that the owner basically got away with what he did, as did my horse's previous owner, but take comfort in knowing that you saved this horse's life. You can't save every horse, but you did an amazing thing by accepting this horse into your life and teaching him to trust and love again. God bless you!
April
2007-05-10 15:56:41 UTC
You are a great person and the world needs more people like you! It's terrible that he only paid $500! I'm sure Donatello is in good hands now. Maybe you should start a petition to raise the fine for doing something like beating up a poor, defenseless horse...
rainy_creek_blazer
2007-05-10 10:32:59 UTC
It's so good of you to save this horse and take the money to fix him up. He might take a while to come around (or maybe starved for affection and come around immediately), but it's always worth it in the end to know that you gave them a good life, even if for a month to many many years.



I have no idea how people can do these things to animals. I have rescue animals at my house and my grandfather has a cat sanctuary in the mountains of northern NM. It upsets me how outdated laws are and some of the things that the HSUS have as "guidelines" for animals - some places personality test the animals right when they come in, before they get to eat or drink or anything. Of course the dog will be good aggressive if he hasn't seen food in months and has been eating his own waste. Then they deem them unfit and put them to sleep. The dogs who do pass the test, the HSUS says should only be given 3 days to live in order to not spread disease and make room for other incoming animals. Again, these are guidelines that most shelters don't follow as such, but one in my town follows them to a T and ticks me off so much! It's all an issue of space.



Animals aren't seen as living beings with a heart and personality. Horses were cars, cats were rodent killers (or witches' familiars...we won't even get into that horrible practice), and dogs were guards. I had recently asked a question about liability insurance and such because I'm interested in becoming a veterinarian and am changing my major. I was wondering if the malpractice suits and such were as much as regular doctors. The answer was horrible, but true - the people will only get as much as that animal was worth in terms of property - $100 or $1000 or whatever. To me, that's horrible. Good for vets so they can't be killed and scared away from the profession by malpractice charges, but in my opinion, morally horrible because in my house, all of our animals are family. They can't have a price.



Sorry for the tangent, but these things upset me a ton. If I do take the path of vet, I want to do an internship at Best Friends sanctuary.
Dawn
2007-05-10 16:02:38 UTC
This is an extremely sore subject with me as well, as I tend to err on the side of worshipping my horse. The problem is that horses are considered stock animals and not pets, or the standards concerning abuse would be MUCH higher. As it stands in most states, as long as the animal has access to food and water there's little anyone can do. Changing the legislation is what really needs to be done, but it isn't easy. I personally have participated in various letter-writing campaigns, but have seen few changes over the years.
Starlight 1
2007-05-10 09:54:29 UTC
Thank you for saving your loyal Donatello. I agree with the idea that the fines for letting a horse get into such an appalling condition should be larger, but there should also be stiff prison terms for people who are convicted of such crimes. I also think that we need to have a registry, much like the sex offender registries that already exist in many states, of people who are convicted of animal cruelty, neglect, abuse, or any other crime of that sort. Abuse of any animal should always be illegal- no matter the type or degree, or the animal involved. That's just my thoughts on this.
TritanBear
2007-05-10 12:04:41 UTC
We need more people who are like you and so do animals/horses like Donatello need more people like you. It is very disturbing that people can act and treat animals the way they do and get no punishment for it. I believe people like Donatello's former owner are the scum of the earth and have no heart. I have spent years fighting for animal rights and it gets aggravating how the government can condone cruelty to animals. There have been so many studies that show people who can mistreat animals will go on to abuse other humans. Animals are better beings than most humans and deserve better treatment. Donatello is lucky you found him, and good luck on his full recovery.
mamanahe
2007-05-10 18:42:54 UTC
I just went trough something like that,there was 4 horses that were dumped on me at least 400 pounds under weight,worms mites,hooves were curved up,I put about 2,000.00 into theses horses and court cost to keep them and laywer fees etc... and 5 months later the sheriff told me to give them back or i would go to jail...i never get reibursed,they never got punished this was about 3 months ago and i found out 1 of the horses has died...
CedarledgeWIT07
2007-05-12 13:20:10 UTC
I know. It's terrible. My trainer said she was talking with this one lady who said that there was this mostly dirt pasture behind her house. There was one single horse living all by itself with nothing to eat or drink. So she filled up one of her own feed buckets with food and gave the horse some food and water because she felt so sorry for it. Then she called animal control and asked them to come out and take a look at the situation hoping that they could do something about it so that the horse wouldn't have to suffer anymore. When they came out they saw the buckets and told her that by law they couldn't do anything about it because technically it had food and water. She even told them that she had put the buckets there so the horse wouldn't die before they got there. They still said they legally couldn't do anything about it. Isn't that terrible? Another man said that h had offered to split the cost of a safe fence with a neighbor who thought that barbed wire fence was good enough for his pasture. He told him to go to ****. Less than 2 weeks later they found a severly wounded foal tangled in the fence. He offered to buy the foal and his mother to keep them safe but the owner refused.
spanishorses4me
2007-05-10 15:00:10 UTC
Heres another example I just came back from an andalusion show they all do the dancing & the spanish walk.If people would just realize how this is done.They take a 2 by 4 & beat there knees untill they pick ther feet up high(in pain)then from there there tought the comand by spurs as long as they allow these shows the beating will increase.
Alysianne D
2007-05-13 19:28:08 UTC
It bothers me to no end, around here it's worse, though, all of the people are related, so you can't do anything, I have seen horses die from neglect, and there's nothing I can do.

We rescued a neglected horse, who had been starved. She had scars from the barbwire fence she tried to get through to get food. We named her Stormy. We got her as a nine year old, and had to put her down at 14 because of malignant melanoma that became aggressive when she refused to take her medicine after years of it.

We have a purebred collie that showed up in our barbwire that had been abused, he's still scared of bikes, and he had been kicked, but he's over that.

We also have two cats we picked up off the side of the road. The female fit in the palm of my hand (and I have small hands) and they were both so covered in fleas their hair MOVED!

I HATE animal abuse!
Phartzalot
2007-05-10 09:43:48 UTC
I don't know why our animal cruelty penalties are so pathetically lax, but I hate it! And it is not limited to horses, either. I bet the sports star with the pit bulls and their poor training dogs won't get much more. But HOORAY FOR YOU! for taking Donatello in and my good thoughts go with you both.
Player4life
2007-05-10 13:25:42 UTC
I know exactly what you mean. It is so stupid. I think they should add up the time and money it will take to revive the horse. Like the time added up should be their time in jail. And the money to take care of them for a couple years should be their fine! It is absoluteley disgusting what people do to animals.
2007-05-10 12:06:49 UTC
you are a wonderful person for saving this lovely animal. I also do rescues and am amazed and sickend by what people can do. I feel ( and I know this is not humane) but the people who do this to animals should get the same treatment that they gave to the animals. Thank you
casper
2007-05-10 09:52:41 UTC
well i am glad that you got the horse and he id going to be treated better but the horese will grow to trust you and you and after you shoe hin the love and support that he needs that horse will love you to death and that is bull crap that a 500$ is what that lady got well good luck with your horse
ANN C
2007-05-10 15:32:41 UTC
Yes its just unbelievable what goes on in this world...not just animals as victims either...all we can hope is caring people like you and us still step up and do something when we can and pray that there is a higher power watching and keeping score......God Bless....
Taylor W
2007-05-10 09:44:16 UTC
You have a good heart.

It's awesome that you saved him, and yes I agree.

The fines should be MUCH larger.
mamaz
2007-05-10 19:14:34 UTC
cheers to you! And how bout some jail time for that ******?!!!


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