Question:
Why does my mare keep getting rain rot? It's driving me bezerk!?
anonymous
2012-04-26 06:27:03 UTC
Before you go all "Y U NAWT TKN CRE O UR HORSIE? BAD HRSE OWNR!!!" READ IT.

My mare is an 11 year old quarter mare. She wasn't an offical rescue, but she was in a stall for 2 months straight, her stall wasn't cleaned the enitre time and she was a bit underweight when we got her. She is getting two scoops of Nutrina Vitality Mare and Foal twice a day, and two flakes of hay three times a day, she also has access to grass 24/7. She is brushed every day and get's bathed about once a month. She also has free range to go in and out of her stall as she chooses.

This is the third time an a year she's gotten rain rot, and I'm about ready to give up! The first time it went away on its own within a week, the second we used a friends medicated shampoo for it (Not sure what it was) and now it's back.
I've been gently pulling the clumps off of her, and she has about 3 patches the size of my palm on her hindquarters, and on her shoulder.
I have not treated the third yet, but we are going to TS today to get something for it. What kind of treatment should I get?
She is not in a pasture with another horse, but she can socilize with 10 others through a fence.
I used to use my brushes on the other horses, but I have cleaned them all about 3 months ago and used only my brushes for her.

I'm not quite sure where she's getting it and how I can keep her from getting it! It's a pain for both of us, because I can't stand to leave the clumps on there!
Thank-you.
Eight answers:
gallop
2012-04-26 08:23:37 UTC
If you are sure this is rain rot, which is a bacterial infection caused by d. congolensis, then you may need to have your vet administer systemic antibiotic to eradicate it. The bacteria live dormant in the skin and can become active whenever skin integrity is compromised. Prolonged exposure to dampness, abrasions, open cuts, or anything else that compromises the skin barrier, or anything compromising immune functions can precipitate active infection. Reinfection by bacteria on other horse's active lesions or on grooming equipment is possible, but only when the skin integrity is too compromised to prohibit active infection from developing. Vectors like flies also carry the bacteria between animals, and reinfection can occur that way as well. In some cases, secondary infection by other bacteria such as staph or strep may develop. Once this happens, injection of specific systemic antibiotics is the most effective way to deal with it.



If the infection has invaded deeper layers of tissue, then topical treatments will not reach it. The d. congolensis bacteria can usually be killed simply by softening and removing the scabs, using cotton pads soaked in isotonic saline to cleanse any pus, then using dry pads to pat the sores completely dry and leaving the sores exposed to air. If flies are a problem, a very thin layer of EMT ointment (collagen gel) will seal them out while promoting healing of the sores. Vetericyn is another good product to dress the lesions if needed. just exposure to air does the most good.



Be very gentle in removing the scabs, and don't do anything like currying which will drive the bacteria into deeper layers and spread the infection to wider areas. Dispose of anything that contacts the scabs and pus in a sealed container. They are laden with bacteria. This infection can be spread to humans and horses.



Don't use harsh chemical treatments like iodine solutions since this is not a fungal infection only affecting outer dead protein cells. Iodine solutions are appropriate for fungal infections, but not for d. congolensis infection, which is what causes rain rot. This infection invades living tissues and iodine solutions or other chemical treatments kill healthy cells , further disrupting skin integrity and providing more food for bacteria to feed on. Use 0.9% isotonic sterile saline to clean the lesions and remove the scabs.



Anything that you can do to keep the skin barrier healthy and intact and to provide optimum nutrition to maintain immune functions will be preventive. Frequent grooming, avoiding bathing with soaps that remove oils and disturb the bacterial flora and pH, and getting the coat dried out each day if there is rain will all help. Blanketing can promote rain rot by obstructing air flow and providing the dark, airless, and moist environment on skin that these anaerobic bacteria thrive in.



I would have the vet confirm the diagnosis of rain rot, and administer antibiotics if the vet advises it. Appropriate antibiotic one-dose injection is preferable to oral antibiotic treatment, and chronic infections can be rapidly cured with a single IM injection of procaine penicillin (22,000 IU/kg) and streptomycin (22 mg/kg). If this fails to completely eradicate it, then a single injection of long-acting oxytetracycline (20 mg/kg) can be admininistered.
Nancy
2016-05-17 18:27:23 UTC
First off, DONT BLANKET your horse until you've cured it, then worry about keeping your horse dry - the reason for Rain Rot or Rain Scald is due to bacteria not being able to escape and in turn are causing a reaction on your horses skin and in turn leaves a scab like surface on infected areas. Comes from not properly cooling out, lack of shelter, trapping in sweat (blanketing after riding without a completley dry horse etc etc. So, leave him/her be and dont blanket until you've solved this rain rot. The worst thing you can do is trap in the bacteria....they love this and they will spread and it will make it worse. Ask your vet about a spray on treatment - so sorry I cant think of the name but all I know is its a powder and its pink. Works like a charm! Spray on, brush in well and leave it. :) Easy treatment and it works ! And of course the above posters mentioned great tips - including using gloves and to be as gentle as possible with removing the scabs it can be painful. Also, an iodine rub will help to keep the area clean and disinfected.
zakiit
2012-04-26 10:56:09 UTC
If she is out 24/7 without blankets and the weather is wet, then she will continue to get rain rot! It is caused by a fungus that thrives on damp, warm conditions - your horse's body heat is ideal, and unless you can keep her dry for any length of time - such as waterproof blankets or stabling in wet weather, it will continue to recur.



Your best bet would be to keep her dry - and the stable clean - and regularly use - Hibiscrub medicated body wash - ask the vet how often, or your seller might know better how to use it.



Another cause could be that you have inadvertantly not rinsed the shampoo out from her baths. I was on a course with my horse once and I would bathe him every night before putting him to bed and half way through he suddenly came up with rain-rot - and though he was stabled, he still got it. The vet thought that I hand not rinsed properly. He soon recovered once I had treated it with Hibiscrub.
LK
2012-04-26 07:49:53 UTC
Alright.



I know you've already gotten some advice here but here are my two cents to add on to what's already been said:



a) check her feed, thoroughly. Not if there's something wrong with it, but the ingredient list. Some horses react to barley in their feed; and bizarrely, some horses also react to grain that's been processed under heat in the factory. So the grain could actually be a problem.



b) do NOT wash her feet with an alkaline solution which is what the bacteria like; but rather something on the adicid side.



c) make sure to ALWAYS ALWAYS dry out her feet really really well after you've soaked them. Dryness and plenty of oxygen kills mud fever.



d) Products: Oxine AH, Sanogene, CleanTrax. All these are the same product and can be bought off eBay. They contain chlorine dioxide and WILL! kill the mud fever (they are marketed as thrush products but will also take mud fever / rain rot). If you have a reasonably small stable I would also recommend "misting" it with Sanogene to get rid of any airborne bacteria. And clean your brushes in it. Be sure to follow the instructions closely, though. Sanogene activated with citric acid (a baking agent you can buy in the shop) and / or vinegar is extremely effective but also poisonous to small kids so, take care.



As for why it comes back though, I really implore you to have a look at her feed because that could be the reason why it keeps returning.



Good luck!!! My horse has struggled with mud fever for an entire winter now but it's finally starting to get better with the Sanogene.



ETA gotcha this link from Amazon, one gallon is a helluvalot but it's a really good price. http://www.amazon.com/Bio-Cide-International-Oxine-AH-Gallon/dp/B000HT7H8W



Optima PH is also another absolutely fantastic cure for rain rot which a few of my friends have been recommending like crazy. Sadly it's a local company so you won't be able to get hold of it in the US but it's an organically produced spray and I think the general idea behind it is to keep the pH of the skin at the perfect level for fighting off the bacteria; though I'm not entirely sure. I've also had a friend whose horse had absolutely horrifying rain rot for years, which didn't start to heal until they took it to a vet who in her words "performed some magic". He did some acupuncture but she's convinced he did something else because she'd tried acupuncture before and it didn't help. I'm not sure though. A lot of people are convinced that rain rot comes as a symptom of problems within the horse. But let's not take it as far as acupuncture for now; have a good old talk to your vet, I recommend the Oxine from the bottom of my heart, and keep your head up! It's nothign that can't be fought off with a bit of spirit :-)
MARK
2012-04-26 07:00:52 UTC
A lot of horses that were unhealthy rescues end up getting issues with their skin and coat health.

The most likely reason that she keeps getting it over and over is that you didn't completely sterilize things that came into contact with her during that time-ie saddle pad, blanket, brushes, etc.

You need to first get rid of this bout using a topical or spray and currying her well, then sterilize everything that came into contact with her.

you might also want to get her a rain sheet or keep her indoors when it's raining since the dampness really gets it going.

Also you could put her on a supplement for her skin and coat health, since she was kept in a pretty rotten place for a while and wasn't taken care of well she could use a boost.

If you are not sure what to put on her I would ask your vet what they think is best.
Tristan
2012-04-26 06:57:50 UTC
Here is a link that might help you. honestly I just brush it off and i would put on antiseptic or witch hazel or something like that make sure you get it good and hit it hard

heres the link; http://www.understanding-horse-nutrition.com/rain-rot.html
sheedalaadie
2012-04-26 06:56:17 UTC
"I have cleaned them all about 3 months ago and used only my brushes for her."



There is your problem. You cleaned them 3 months ago and used them for only her which does help not spread it to other horses, but you have to clean them every time you use them until its gone otherwise youre just putting it right back every time you brush her. After she is cleared up, cleaning the brushes once a week would be good after that. We had a bad fungi outbreak one year, 4 horses had it. every brush was dipped in bleach every day. It took a couple months, but eventually everyone cleared up and we never had a problem again.
Shannon Maye
2012-04-26 06:35:47 UTC
Get it completely cleared up. Go back and bleach anything you've used on her. If there's even a chance of her getting wet, put a waterproof sheet on her.


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