Question:
My daughter wants a horse?
?
2016-05-11 03:13:20 UTC
She's been asking for a horse since she was young. She's been riding for almost 2 years and is absolutely in love with them. She can groom, ride, feed, muck out a stall, and lead a horse. She knows all cations she should take. Like not going behind a horse, let it know you're there, etc. She's very depressed and was stressed over school. She recently went to a private school which is 10,000 a year. Which my husband and I are affording nicely. We're caught up on bills and everything. She's done so much research during her spring break on trying to find ways to make it a little less expensive.

Like barefoot horse, pasture board, rough board, buying used tack, rescuing a horse, etc. I know that the first month is super expensive because you're buying the blanket, tack, saddle pad, the horse, first month of boarding, getting the vet exame before buying the horse or adopting it, getting a halter and lead rope, getting a trailer or renting one, still paying for lessons etc.

She's found a place that boarding is 270 for pasture/rough board. It's not to far from us and she has friends who said they could drive her if I can't or my husband can't. My older daughter and son also drive.

She cares a lot about animals, and spoils her cat. It's actually funny. One day we went and bought a new toy for her cat so she didn't get bored. The next day she comes back in saying we need new treats. Well the day before we got new treats with the toy but she said her cat likes a different kind. (We tried the moist treats she hates them.) she also got her a catnip ball. She's always putting her cat first and is very protective of her. Guess her motherly instincts kick in when she got the kitten.

We also have a puppy who she became protective over as well. She wants nothing to happen to the puppy. She's always making sure she can't get out of the yard so she doesn't get hurt, she's always worrying that she's going to get hurt on something. She can barely stay angry at an animal.

She's even saved two baby birds one time. She's a nature girl and a huge animal lover. She would get angry over people who send their horses to slaughter, etc. She even asked me if we could donate to the rescue centers.

I'll walk in to see her watching videos of girls or boys getting their first horse. She looks so sad too.
She's very serious about her grades and doesn't relax until they're B's or A's. She got C average this year and that just...caused her to become super depressed. She's a fantastic artist too.

Anyways, I know shots are once or twice a year. Around here they're about 20-40 dollars. sometimes 50. Which I can easily afford. I'm just worried about if the horse gets ill with colic or something, or it gets injured in the field. She's mentioned getting the horse insured. Does that help with prices?

She also said it matters on how you manage your money. She told me that if I got her a horse I wouldn't need to get her any christmas presents or birthday presents. She also said she would stay home from vacation to be with the horse and so we wouldn't need to pay for her and put that money towards the horse. She also brought the idea up to make a seperate bank account ONLY for the horse.

We're middle class and we're getting better with money. We've been getting better for a while. I honestly don't know weather or not to get her a horse.

How are the costs? I normally don't look at the annual things, I pay it by month. Even though I'll figure out the annual cost. If I put money aside for emergency and boarding and the farrier and vet, could I somehow afford it?

Excuse my grammar mistakes and spelling. I'm in a rush.
22 answers:
?
2016-05-15 01:55:29 UTC
I would, just not quite yet. As a child, as BEGGED non stop for a horse. Well I did get one, and I was very lucky she was dead-broke, barefoot horse who was an easy keeper, and we had room in our backyard and tons of trails. That being said it was a struggle. We are middle class and could barely afford it and that was without board. Do a little more research on costs to own.



But by God, get that girl a horse one way or another. She sounds so determined. I was the same way when I was younger. I wanted a horse more than anything and was the happiest girl in the world when I finally got one. When I have kids, and they want something, I will do whatever I can to give it to them. I think it's important to make your children happy, so long as they deserve it.



Look long and hard for a good dead-broke school horse. Ask your daughter's trainer for help finding one. If you really want to spend money on your daughter by getting her a horse, do it. If you're determined enough, you came find enough money to pay for it.



I would also consider leasing a horse first to get you acquainted to horse-ownership. Owning a horse is really a great thing. Yes it's hard, yes it's expensive, but you learn. I'd say go for it.



Just remember it does not get cheaper. You'll always be buying new stuff and paying for upkeep. But if you think you can do it, then do it.
anonymous
2016-05-12 07:38:20 UTC
you may think that you have plenty of money now but when you have had the horse for a couple of months you will be all out. My horse goes threw 2 bags of food EVERY WEEK there is also the farrier, Chiropracter, dentist, shots and coggins. You will want to have money set aside so if your horse gets injured or colics or has to be trailered to a hospital for surgery. No matter how much you have there is ALWAYS something else you need. You will want to buy a saddle that fits your horse. Whitch can also be very expensive. And your daughter will probly be wanting to show. If you find a horse at a reasonable price then you will have to pay for training for the horse. Then you have entry fees. And the list goes on. The point it horses are way more expensive thank you think! If you know all the expenses and you are well off and want to buy a horse I think your daughter is ready. I would strongly recommend looking into leasing a horse befor you buy!!! Hope this helped good luck!
Samantha
2016-05-15 21:43:47 UTC
She sounds just like me when I was younger!! My family can barely afford to keep a horse even without board or feed. to start right away there is the cost of the horse. The horse will of course need to be broke and mostly trained to start her off. And depending on what she wants to do you she can teach the horse how to do it (she will need lessons to teach her how to teach him) the horse can cost 1000-10000 for a good horse. Then tack you will need before you get the horse. A cheap saddle to use until you can buy a nice one but make sure it fits ($350-$500at least) and more for a good one (western saddles idk about English) you will need a pad that can cost around 150-300 less for English. And she will need a headstall (80-150) There's also farrier for full shoes where I live it's $100. Set aside at least 1000 for emergencies leasing is amazing to learn. And you can usually buy it if you want so it's like an extended trial. Make sure you find the right horse let her try him out before.
AllAroundQH
2016-05-11 18:22:22 UTC
There are a lot of people who are a lot worse off than you who own horses.



I always had horses growing up. Like you, my family could easily afford the stuff we needed and had some left over for what we wanted, but we weren't millionaires, either. We still managed to have 4-5 horses at a time (on our own property). And we did go through a colic surgery, too.



Now, I'm on my own. I'm a teacher (and not in a high paying state), so my budget is limited. Once I get done with the house payment, car payment, insurance, etc., there's not much leftover. I still have a horse (and a nice show horse at that). I budget carefully to be able to afford his "regular" expenses (board, routine vaccinations or whatever, farrier). I do have a little money saved up (for example, about a year and a half ago I had to drop about $500 on x-rays/being injected unexpectedly), but I don't have thousands sitting around to pay for colic surgery. But most vets do take payments--my trainer has a constant balance at the vet that he just pays on each month.



If you can comfortably afford the regular expenses of the horse (and there are ways to do it without spending a fortune, like your daughter has researched) and could handle a small swing in costs (like adding an unexpected vet payment), then go for it. Very few of us (no matter how many people tell you otherwise) have enough money to cover a $10,000 vet bill in our pockets. That's not realistic. Being responsible and having a credit card (that you use responsibly) or arranging payments to be able to manage such an expense IS realistic.



And yes, insurance can help with those costs as well. A friend of mine had to have colic surgery on his horse, but fortunately his was insured. However, then you have to add insurance payments to your budget as well.
?
2016-05-11 08:27:32 UTC
If you can swing it why not? Your daughter sounds like a responsible child. One bit of advice from an older horsewoman. Do NOT buy a rescue even if its free. Buy the best horse you can afford for her. It will save on expenses and mysterious problems that may put your daughter in harms way.

Buy a good horse 7-12 years old, fully broke, that is safe to ride and handle. so your daughter can enjoy it, Not worry about its health or getting hurt, as much. Because a fall or a unseen illness can ruin the entire experience.

If that's not possible a lease would be a good thing.Then you can turn it back when it gets too old or becomes a problem. A good horse can always be leased or resold. A old rescue can often only go back to the kill auction, or be euthanized. Horses are livestock and very few people can properly maintain a herd of retirees. Or weather the pain and expense of maintaining a veterinary patient.

As with most things quality costs more for initial purchase. Cheaper to maintain and remains serviceable much longer than cheap to buy. There is no such thing as a Free horse. Even if they give it to you.
grace
2016-05-15 18:24:01 UTC
Some things you need to think about money wise:



Farrier bills

Vet bills

Board

Hay, shavings, grain

All the necessary tack





But..2 years isn't very long to be owning a horse. I would recommend leasing a horse first, to see how she does!
ella
2016-05-14 14:51:36 UTC
Here's a couple questions to ask yourself using a medium sized horse such as 16hh:

R u willing to spend about $500 a month at the usual?

When on Vacations who will exercise the horse?

Do u have vet care covered?

Does her riding instructer think she is ready for the big step of owning a horse?
Elaine M
2016-05-11 08:45:12 UTC
It'll be more expensive than you think. I would join a horse owners forum if I were you and get some accurate real life numbers on things. YahooGroups has forums, or you can look around online. The lifespan of a horse is up to 30+ years, they need foot care, vet care and food/shelter for that entire time. The tack isn't cheap, and the vaccinations (bird flu needs to be protected against) need to be regular. If the horse develops something that makes her unable to ride, are you willing to keep the horse as a pet?
Elle
2016-05-13 04:14:41 UTC
Oh my gosh! This reminds me so much of myself! I am thirteen and recently got my first horse. I have been riding for a little over two years and my dad finally said yes. Have you look at DIY agistment? Its a lot cheaper. Horses are indeed very expensive, even just taking lessons is. My horse is shod on his front hooves but barefoot on his back and that costs around $97 every 7 weeks. Before I got my horse I would always watch videos of people gettimg their first horse and it would make my heart ache so much. I recommend getting her one as I went throuhg the exact same thing she is going through. I recently started high school and being very shy around new people it made it hard to make friends and literally the only thing that made me feel better was going to see my lovely boy because who needs people? πŸ˜‚ haha. I remember crying after my riding lessons because I wanted to be around horses so bad. The feeling was unbearable, its unexplainable. I really suggest looking further into it😊
Snezzy
2016-05-11 11:15:54 UTC
When my wife was 12 her parents bought her a horse. She had already had four years of lessons, and the family story is that her first spoken word was "horsie".



Her parents did not ever touch the horse. She took care of it; they didn't. Moreover, if she had failed to do so, for even one day, the horse would be GONE. Sold. Never to come back.



Read all the advice you have been offered here. It's lengthy but looks nearly complete. Here's a summation of a few key points:

- Have a seasoned horseman with you when looking.

- Don't ride the horse if the owner won't.

- Don't buy colour. Good and bad horses are available in all colours, and you can't ride the colour.
?
2016-05-11 05:28:00 UTC
It is a huge step, and 2 years isn't a very long time. My suggestion would be to look for a horse to lease for a year. Then once the year is up, look back and see how things went. Were expenses do-able? Did she keep her grades up? Did she take full responsibility like she said she would? Did she keep paying attention to her other pets?

If everything went well, THEN you can look into purchasing a horse. If there were bumps, then you return the horse and move on.
?
2016-05-11 06:14:24 UTC
Being a horse boardee myself, here's a rough estimate of what you might expect.



Cost of boarding

Cost of feed or hay if not provided with boarding

Cost of dewormers - They have yearly packs online for $30. You might want to call an equine vet and ask them what dewormers they recommend and how often. Then go to the store and cost it all out to get an exact price.

Cost of farrier - Ask the place your going to board with if they have a regular farrier as most do, and see how much a trim costs. Horses usually need a trim every 6-8 weeks so just assume 6 weeks when calculating total cost. If they don't have a farrier, call ones nearby you to get their prices.

Cost of yearly shots and tests - VEWT (a three way shot for tetanus, west nile, and sleeping sickness), rabies, rhino flu, and coggins test. Again, call your local vet for an estimate on all these shots and the coggins.

Yearly checkup/teeth floating - every year when my vet comes out to give my horse his shots, he also gets a general check up and the vet looks at his teeth. Ask your vet how much it costs for floating their teeth. Some farriers do this also. Add that into your yearly cost.



Saddle

Saddle pad

Girth

Bridle

Bit

Reins

Lead rope

Halter

Blanket for cold weather

Soft brush, hard brush, comb, rubber curry



Optionals:

Treats, Breast collar, Lunge line, Coat sprays, fly spray (only optional when you don't have bugs), Hoof oils, Leather care products for tack



If you get your horse insured, make sure you look very long and hard at the details of the insurance. Many pet insurances don't cover surgeries or emergencies, only routine care that they deem fit. I've never had insurance and never had a problem. My horse had pigeon fever when I got him which was the only emergency. Cost me about $1500 in vet bills and medication. I'd say have a couple thousand dollars on hand for an emergency and you should be ok. Also, leasing a horse for a few months first might be a very good option. Costs around $300 to $600 a month in my area. It could make sure your daughter knows what she's getting into and assure that she won't get tired of it. Helps prepare you for what you might expect and can open you up to meet fellow horse owners that could help you going into new horse ownership. It can also make sure she'll actually have enough time for a horse. If your leasing for a while and she starts only seeing the horse a couple times a month, you shouldn't buy one yourself. Something new horse owners are prone to do is let a well trained horse turn into a pasture ornament because they loose interest or time.



Edit: We took every precaution we could to keep every horse safe when I got my new horse. We kept him in quarantine for a week just in case he had any infectious sicknesses. A few day afterwards was when I noticed a bump on his chest. The barn owner and I assumed it was pigeon fever so I got a vet out the next day. They did an ultrasound to confirm it was a puss filled mass and not a tumor. That same day they gave him some drugs, cut open the mass, and cleaned it out. I was given some bute, antibiotics, and prescription spray to keep bugs off the wound. He was never in contact with the pasture or any other horse at the facility. None of the other horses have been sick since and this was years ago so I doubt it's still in my barn's soil. Considering I was a teen handling it on my own, I'd say I handled it pretty well lol. I appreciate y'all's advice though.
?
2016-05-15 23:12:24 UTC
lease first for 6 months or so and if she cares for the horse well and your money is fine go ahead and buy but get a experienced and healthy horse
Judy and the Beast
2016-05-11 14:58:09 UTC
Well Whitney, I think your "daughter" really wants to ride but I'm not sure you are ready to own a horse. I would consider putting her into a weekly or twice weekly lesson program with a top instructor before buying a horse. I know the idea of having one as YOURS is really attractive. However it's a tremendous responsibility and expense. You are completely responsible for this creature which you don't understand and lives outside of your care and home. Lots of unforseen things happen.



The reason riding lessons are a better option are the following:



1. Your daughter really needs to know not just the basics but to be an advanced rider before being turned loose with her own horse some day when she is ready. This is for her safety, the horses safety, and so she does not become a sloppy backyard rider who just falls off every time the going gets a little rough. Riding looks easy when it's going well but the minute the horse squirts sideways she can be on the ground with a broken arm or neck. Under supervision on a lesson horse this is not only less likely to happen but also your daughter will be schooled in all the right ways to avoid things that set off a dangerous situation with a horse (there are hundreds if not thousands...) and how to deal with a dangerous situation in the moment.



2. A beginning rider advances quickly through horses. The horse that was perfect for them their first 6 months of riding is different than the one that will teach them what they need to know the next year and then the next and so on. Plus, you learn more about horses way of going and develop a much better seat riding different ones.



3. You learn the care of different horse needs and lots more tack options. Instead of being just used to "your horse" you learn about all kinds of horses you will interact with in the school. Some require wraps, some special tack, some special care with bridling, some a martingale, some not etc.... You learn more about all the different accessories and specialty items.



4. A school horse you bond with incredibly and share this bond and love with other students. That in itself is really rewarding. You still get to bring the horse treats and pamper and love on a school horse. Plus you see how other people do it!



5. You aren't responsible if the horse hurts himself. You can just ride a different horse. And, if they are lame a long time or permanently, you don't need to buy a new horse. There is no unpaid downtime on a school horse. If the horse is lame, your lesson may be canceled but you don't "lose money".



6. It is more affordable than owning a horse. You get a very similar and better learning experience for your daughter and it is usually less cost than owning. If you own, the cost of lessons is in addition to all the costs of board etc... You don't just buy a horse, hop on and ride. You need to be in a full service lesson program or you are asking to get your daughter killed by said horse. A beginner will "ruin" a perfectly nice horse before you know it without supervision. It's not that she will do anything mean or wrong, but she will not know the correct and right things to do to help the horse advance or deal with small issues that are about to turn south. Knowing not to walk behind a horse and how to groom them is like 1% of the equation. Can she teach her horse to do lead changes, how to get a soft flex etc.... I doubt it.



Most people are in a lessons for about 5 or 10 years before they are ready to even think about a first horse. And, often leasing is a good option too to investigate for a first horse. I wasn't so lucky to have a parent who even consider riding lessons for me. At the age of 25 after finishing college and having my own job, I started in a lesson program. I lessoned for about 12 years before owning my first horse. I'm so glad I had such a strong foundation of training. Don't dismiss the value of riding lessons or the love and bonding your "daughter" will have with lesson horses. I would strongly recommend this route.
Claire
2016-05-11 03:17:01 UTC
Your daughter sounds very ready for a horse, I know that before I got mine I was very stressed and anxiety filled and it has not only made me happier but improved my relationship with my parents. And if you think you are ready to help her take on the responsibility, I would say go for it! Leasing a horse might be a good idea for a first one though!
julia
2016-05-11 18:56:46 UTC
I had to skim this a bit but it sounds like everything is perfect for her to get a horse . Not many people get perfect opportunity such as yours so I think you should go for it and you won't regret it .
Jeff
2016-05-11 18:24:22 UTC
If your child cannot make a bed, keep a room picked up, iron a shirt. respond to adults with out a groan/eye roll or be out of bed - first call 6 AM she is not ready for a horse.



You mentioned "barefoot"... that horse needs to see a farrier every 6 to 10 weeks anyway for a trim. If the horse needs shoes- they need shoes. Not a big deal either way as far as costs go.
Tamara
2016-05-11 05:53:00 UTC
How badly does she want a horse? Tell her that if she is serious about owning her own horse, you could help pay for the horse itself and if she has a job, tell her that you won't be paying boarding fees and its up to her to pay board
alison
2016-05-11 04:05:16 UTC
i would wait longer then 2 years i have rode for two years and had a bad fall and now i hate riding! i would definitely wait
anonymous
2016-05-12 14:08:27 UTC
buy her a dog
cory
2016-05-12 04:12:55 UTC
good
Starlight 1
2016-05-11 08:46:08 UTC
I think you should take your time with this, Whitney, and do some serious thinking about several possible pros and cons before you jump into anything. Let me explain a little more of what I mean. First of all, I deeply respect and appreciate your daughter's dream of having her own horse. I was only 16 myself when I got my first horse ( he was my birthday present that year) and unlike your daughter, I had FAR LESS experience or knowledge at the time. Being bit by the horse bug can be incredibly painful, and the younger you are when it happens, the harder it often is to cope with. In my case, it hit me when I was still in kindergarten, but it would be another decade before my parents finally decided to move to the country and allow me to have a horse. Until that time, however, we mainly lived in a series of subdivisions which were near a small college town in the Midwest. It was frustrating as all get out for me when I was young, to see and know people around me who had horses and not have one myself. So yes, I completely understand where your daughter is coming from here, because I've been there and done that.



Now, about the larger question of whether your daughter is ready for the responsibilities that come with horse ownership. It sounds to me like she may be. She also sounds like she's very committed to the idea of being an owner, and wants to make it happen- but in the right way. She's not whining or begging- it's obvious from your description of her that she's done her homework and some market research. She's also made a rather impressive effort to address the financial side of the equation, too, which is unusual in someone her age. Most teenage girls who are horse crazy generally don't think much about what owning a horse will cost, nor do they stop to consider the level of responsibility that's required to properly care for a horse. I think the real issue is going to shift from her to you and your husband. If the two of you feel that your daughter is mature enough and responsible enough to have a horse of her own, then you should work with a professional and get her one. I use that phrase "work with a professional" for a reason. As first time horse buyers/owners, there are a LOT of potential traps and pitfalls that you can easily get into, and having your daughter's trainer or another seasoned horse professional help you in your search is extremely important, for everyone's safety and protection. Buying a horse is NOT like buying a car, where you have the benefit of warranty protection and the ability to take legal action against the seller or dealer if things don't work out. No, getting a horse requires a very different mindset. You have to know what you want, and know how the market works. You also have to know what to AVOID. DON'T TRY to buy a horse on your own without professional guidance and help, no matter how much your daughter might want or try to beg you to. It will only lead to disaster, as I know from experience.



On the subject of money and horse ownership: The actual purchase price is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to costs. Most of the money that horse owners spend on their animals is for upkeep, not for purchasing. And there are ways to economize on some of the costs, provided that you have the knowledge to do so. One example that I like to use is annual vaccinations. I live on a farm, and we currently have 7 horses. We do all our own shots ourselves each spring. This saves us hundreds of dollars, because we avoid the expense of having to pay the vet for a farm call. It's perfectly legal in my state for lay persons ( non-medical professionals) to give horses vaccines, dewormer, and other medications. We order the vaccines from one of the vet supply houses, along with the syringes/needles to administer them. A complete set of spring shots costs about $75 per horse. This includes all the core vaccines, plus additional vaccines that our vet has recommended to us. Once the horses get their shots each spring, they're good to go until the following year. Coggins tests are another thing you can save money on. You have to have a vet do this, but it's not necessary to do it every year UNLESS you're planning on showing or competing with your horse. If your horse is living at home in a closed herd, away from other strange horses, then Coggins testing is a moot point and not required. Your daughter can learn to do other kinds of routine care, too, instead of relying on a vet to do it. Worming, for example, is something that she needs to learn to do herself. There is absolutely NO REASON to waste money on a farm call from the vet, just to have him or her give the horse a tube of wormer. Wormer can be purchased at most feed and farm supply stores, and many tack stores also sell it. And it would be good for your daughter to learn how to clean her own horse's sheath, if she gets a gelding. Sheath cleaning is part of proper management, and horse professionals routinely do this themselves. I've done it lots of times, with my own geldings. As long as you're gentle and your horse trusts you, you can do it safely without risk if you know how. I'd also do some checking around and find out if there are any equine DENTISTS practicing in your area, and rather than calling a vet, I'd make use of their services. Dentists charge a lot LESS than most vets do, for the same services like routine floating and checkups. So these are some basic examples of ways in which you can save money on costs. Things like tack and equipment are usually one time expenses, provided that you take the time to invest in quality equipment that will last. Likewise, you can keep from having to spend money on things like halters if you buy top quality the first time and your daughter learns to TAKE CARE of what she has.



Worrying about what will happen if the horse gets sick or hurt is like worrying about the weather, Whitney. Of course, it's always a good idea to be prepared for emergencies, but obsessing over how you'll pay for every little detail is pointless and serves no purpose. You can and should look into the possibility of insurance for the horse after you make your purchase. Yes, there are several companies that write insurance policies for horses, but what these policies cover and their costs tends to vary widely by place and by type. Some of the terms that the companies use are a bit confusing, too. There are differences, for example, between major medical insurance, and say, mortality insurance. Be sure that you READ any insurance contract thoroughly and understand all of its language before you sign anything. Another way to reduce your level of worry over what might happen in the event of illness is to make every attempt you possibly can to buy a horse which is WITHOUT a KNOWN HISTORY of colic or other serious digestive disturbances. And the best way to make that happen is to INSIST on a complete and thorough PRE PURCHASE EXAM before any sale is initiated. Once the check is signed and the horse is delivered, it's too late. Pre-purchase exams need to be done by YOUR OWN VET, NOT THE VET of the seller or dealer. Reputable sellers will not object to your having your own vet do this. If someone does object or tries to tell you that "they just had the horse checked last week/yesterday/last month/ a year ago", then that should raise an immediate and HUGE RED FLAG in your mind. Something's wrong there- the seller is hiding something. Likewise, you and your daughter should be able to do things like show up unannounced at the seller's barn to see the horse a few times before the sale goes through. If the seller doesn't permit this, or gets upset about it, then again, you need to REJECT that horse and look elsewhere. Your daughter needs to RIDE the horse herself at least TWICE, and she also needs to see the SELLER ride the animal at least once or twice prior to any sale. It would also be a very good idea for your daughter's instructor or trainer to get on the horse at least once or twice as well, for the same reason- to be sure that the animal is suitable and a good match for your daughter. When it's time to talk price and terms with the seller ( assuming the horse passes the pre-purchase exam) then ask if the seller will agree to a trial period before the sale is finalized. This is also the time to ask about the horse's health history, and get any and all copies of records that the seller may have. If the horse is registered and has papers, ask about getting the originals of those, too. This is particularly true if the horse is a mare, because there may come a time when you may want to think about breeding her. You also need copies of the horse's pedigree for the purpose of identification. There are certain breed registries, such as the AQHA and the Jockey Club, which use lip tatoos as a means of identification when they accept a horse for registration. If the horse you're buying has one of these, it's important that you know about it and get records of it.



I'll close by saying that the final decision about whether or not your daughter is ready for a horse is up to you. I wish you good luck.


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